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The Each day Bread Mailbag returns with Stephen “Breadman” Edwards tackling subjects similar to Gervonta Davis and his current knockout of Mario Barrios, the large win by Vasiliy Lomachenko, the proceed run of Erikson Lubin, legendary matchups, and extra.
You recognize bread I used to be pondering, boxing is a bizarre sport. It is all about timing and alternative. Tank is a superb fighter and is deserving of PPV standing. He is not probably the most participating persona, however he has that Mayweather backing, however then I consider guys like Crawford, Charlo, Ennis (jury nonetheless out) who’re thrilling or good trash talkers, however do not transfer the needle as a lot. Why is that and might you consider another fighters who had been thrilling throughout their time, however by no means made it mainstream?
Bread’s Response: Nice Query! I feel the transferring of the needle occurs for a lot of causes. Some fighters have an IT issue. The place it’s not their kinds nevertheless it’s their personalities that entice the plenty. Like Floyd Mayweather. Mayweather’s skillset was revered however the plenty complained about his model. However they at all times tuned in to look at him due to his intriguing persona and his fights meant a lot. If an occasion is BIG sufficient the motion of the combat will probably be intriguing. Each punch will matter.
Some fighters let off an power like Mike Tyson that may make you watch them. Even when Tyson was shot and a few years previous his prime, individuals paid to see him and so they really believed he would win when he had no likelihood.
Then you’ve sure fighters who’re STAMPED when they’re related to greatness. Tank has a Tyson like high quality. He’s from a HOT city space. However Floyd Mayweather STAMPED him. That issues. Now I do know Mayweather has had different fighters however Tank has been his finest and Mayweather having the instincts he has rode Tank and hit the jackpot with him.
There have been loads of EXCITING fighters who didn’t transform Tremendous Stars. Gerald McClellan and Julian Jackson come to thoughts instantly. Each had been straight killers who just about knocked out all of their opponents however neither crossed over. McClellan obtained injured however even earlier than his harm he was by no means the headline of an enormous present, regardless of scoring KOs in every of his middleweight title fights.
Usually instances the powers that be could make or break a fighter. Their CHOICE of how they match sure fighters and what kind of promotion they put behind them issues. Plenty of motive why sure fighters flip into Tremendous Stars….Heaps and plenty of causes. “IT” FACTOR, promotional backing, favoritism, match making and timing.
Your name of Lubin vs Rosario was excellent. You really stated Lubin by KO between 6-8. You stated Rosario entrance runs however will not be a precise entrance runner and that he couldn’t take pictures excessive on the top or to the physique. Wow! My query to you is about Julian Williams. This can be private however plainly Williams is just too good of a fighter to be stopped and lose his title that dangerous to Jeison Rosario. Williams has been making some curious statements recently and a few concerning you. He says your relationship grew to become stale. It appeared you guys had been very shut. The way in which you cried collectively after he beat Hurd was touching. That was his profession finest efficiency straight earlier than the stale combat vs Rosario. You introduced him again from an embarrassing ko to Charlo to being on high of the world. Williams has additionally stated on the telecast that his harm was not that dangerous. How do you pull out of a PPV card, on that platform with an harm that’s not that dangerous? He hasn’t fought in nearly two years.
With Rosario being kod in his two again to again fights after beating Williams, I’m curious as to the way you guys seen Rosario and what was your sport plan going into the combat and what went mistaken. You appear to know Rosario nicely, you additionally predicted Charlo would cease him and also you confirmed your betting slips on twitter. That’s telling even thought he stopped your fighter. If you happen to don’t wish to reply this, I needed to ask.
I additionally seen a pattern with Hurd, Williams and Rosario. Hurd left his coach after Williams beat him and has not appeared good. Williams left you after Rosario beat him and we nonetheless haven’t seen him. Rosario left his coach after Charlo beat him and was stopped once more. Why do these fighters do that after a loss? It’s actually blaming the coach for the loss. Do you agree? I’ve seen Danny Jacobs and Andre Rozier reunite, is there any likelihood you guys will. I believed you had been a terrific group.
Bread’s Response: You recognize what I get these questions typically however I by no means actually delve publicly. However you requested me in such a respectful non intrusive means I will provide you with one thing that I by no means gave out publicly.
Julian Williams getting stopped by Rosario was probably the most disappointing day of my life, together with loss of life of members of the family. I hate speaking about it til today….. Julian was having a terrific camp. He was dominating fighters in sparring he had beforehand struggled with in different camps. He had stopped 2 sparring companions with physique pictures. However his weight was excessive and a month earlier than the combat he caught a FLU. The flu turned his efficiency degree in camp down a notch. I actually assume it affected him.
Slicing roughly 30lbs after which getting the flu will trigger some drop off in efficiency. I considered cancelling the combat however Julian insisted he could be okay as soon as totally rehydrated and that we had time to get issues collectively, which we did, he caught the flu a couple of month out. After Julian misplaced his title, he instructed that his minimize on his eye and sport plan had been the most important points on why he misplaced. If offended me.
His minimize was stopped by our cutman Mike Rodriguez who for my part is the most effective in enterprise. It was beneath management……It additionally wasn’t the primary time he had been minimize. He had been minimize in 7 earlier fights and received every certainly one of them.
Our sport plan was this. Not let Rosario construct a head of steam. We weren’t fixated on going ahead or backwards. However we deliberate on not letting Rosario take greater than 2 steps ahead with out feinting or jabbing him. Julian has a terrific jab and we labored on a jab and a straight proper hand to the physique mixture for 10 weeks. I didn’t really feel that Rosario defended his physique nicely or took it to the physique nicely. His anatomy is that of a protracted torso and trunk. He additionally holds his arms up and excessive. Physique, physique, physique…
When Julian was a really younger professional we used to field Gabe Rosado. Rosado was similar to Rosario 10 years in the past. He used to place plenty of stress on opponents and Rosado was extra bodily mature than Julian on the time. Julian and I got here up with a gameplan to not let Gabe “construct a head steam”. We might at all times stab Gabe to the physique and never transfer too distant, so Gabe didn’t get an opportunity to form of construct momentum earlier than he punched.
Once we signed to combat Rosario I reminded Julian of how he used to field Gabe. He AGREEED. He agreed with the idea and sport plan the identical means he agreed to the idea and sport plan of each different combat we had during the last decade. After he misplaced, he had individuals telling him every part that went mistaken, which is straightforward after it went mistaken. He complained to me concerning the sport plan, though he agreed to it. Throughout the combat I attempted to tweak it some and make changes as a result of Rosario obtained off to begin. I informed Julian to place his hearth out with water, which suggests to CALM the combat down for a number of rounds. Julian was very intense that night time and I feel the hometown crowd introduced that about. The commentators really talked about me telling him to relax throughout the broadcast. Julian by no means acknowledged that I informed him the combat was too chaotic. For some motive he needed in charge me for getting stopped and he has by no means talked about the truth that he minimize nearly 30lbs with a FLU.
So in addition to the DISTRACTIONS of preventing at house from media, household and pals which isn’t an excuse as a result of if you wish to be a star in boxing, preventing at house is an ingredient for fulfillment. The FLU and weight minimize bothered him for my part. And I do know he took Rosario evenly. He educated onerous bodily however mentally he wasn’t leery of Rosario. Rosario had been kod by a fighter in Nathaniel Gallimore that Julian beforehand beat. So his degree of risk he felt from Rosario wasn’t the identical. I warned him again and again about being dismissive in direction of Rosario. In camp I stored telling Julian that Rosario could be higher than we noticed on video. Julian obtained slightly annoyed with me and informed me “I can’t make him see one thing in Rosario that he didn’t see.” It scared me as a result of I used to have the ability to inform Julian that fighters with .500 data had been killers and he believed me. That was now not the case.
You requested me what went mistaken…. The combat was like Murphy’s legislation. All the pieces that would go mistaken, went mistaken. I additionally believed Rosario fought the combat of his life. He fought over his head. He was higher than he ever was earlier than or clearly after.
What’s very revealing to me is that Jermell Charlo and Erickson Lubin, particularly Lubin fought in the same model that I Deliberate for Julian to combat in. Each stopped Rosario with BODY SHOTS. Each hit Rosario with loads of jabs. Each held their floor sufficient to harm Rosario a number of instances even earlier than the stoppage. We labored on that and Julian appeared nice doing it in camp. I don’t know if the FLU compromised Julian’s punch resistance however we by no means made it to the a part of the combat to benefit from Rosario’s entrance working. To listen to Julian not directly blame me for him getting stopped was disappointing however anticipated. And that’s why I eliminated myself from working with him. He didn’t let me go, I QUIT due to precept, frustration and disappointment.
Rosario is a stable fighter however Julian made him look higher than he ever was or is and that to me is the worst half. However I’ve discovered acceptance in life and in boxing and moved on. For the document I didn’t wait till AFTER the combat to appropriate the issues. Throughout camp once I noticed his weight was stagnant, I began to make his meals like I’ve at all times did. I might make him sizzling contemporary meals on a regular basis and convey them to the health club. Once I noticed that he wasn’t feeling nicely, I introduced in vitamin infused hen soup. Once I noticed he was being distracted and overwhelmed exterior of the health club. I informed him me and my spouse would take his kids for two weeks earlier than the combat so after the health club he wouldn’t have to select them up or drop them off. All I needed him to do was consider coaching and restoration with out anything. There was nothing I wouldn’t do for him inside the guidelines to assist him win. Julian Williams is a CLEAN fighter and I do know all the Little Issues Matter. #thelittlethings.
I felt betrayed together with his perspective in direction of me after he misplaced as a result of he is aware of what I did to stop that loss. He is aware of the reality….He began repeating to me, what “they” needed to say. That didn’t fly too nicely with me. I’ve at all times informed him the reality with out being disrespectful or intrusive. There have been wins I wasn’t proud of just like the Ishe Smith win. There have been losses I used to be pleased with him in vs Jermall Charlo. He fought his ass off vs Charlo. The one factor that modified after the Rosario combat was his standing and acceptance of the reality.
What occurs in boxing is you’ve CYNICS, who’ve a destructive opinion about every part. “They” normally don’t serve a major function. “They” at all times give their cynical hypothetical end result. Once we fought Jarrett Hurd in his hometown, “they” stated why would we go to his hometown to combat him. “If” we might have misplaced, “they” would have stated why did we combat him on the “inside”. However we received, so “they” couldn’t say something afterwards. Earlier than we fought Rosario, “they” stated there may be an excessive amount of stress on Julian to combat at house. Effectively he misplaced. However the best way “they” function they will’t lose as a result of they solely need to be appropriate as soon as, to appear like a genius. Julian grew to become too accessible to “their” opinions and it killed us as a group.
The one mistake I feel I made was even agreeing to the Rosario combat on the whole. I admit that’s on me. It’s not that Rosario is Carlos Monzon or something however I do know Julian is best when he’s counted OUT and never counted ON. When he informed me he needed Rosario I ought to have been extra FIRM in my stance and FORBID the combat. For some motive he likes it when everyone seems to be towards him. That fuels him extra. That’s the gasoline he wants in his engine. I ought to have went straight to the Charlo unification or Brian Castano combat which I favored and I admit that was MY RESPONSIBILTY. However Charlo had misplaced to Harrison and the rematch dates did not coincide with our date. However I knew higher. Julian would have been UP for Charlo or Castano and he would have carried out a lot better. And that my buddy is the TRUTH.
Bread,
What a wonderful weekend of fights, would not you say? We noticed every part from the Tank/Barrios, Lomachenko/Nakatani, DAZN and PBC on FOX playing cards. Took me some time to compensate for all of the fights however I used to be amazed all weekend from what I noticed. I wish to primarily contact on Davis/Barrios and the Lubin/Rosario fights. First off to the Davis/Barrios combat. The favored consensus going into the combat was Davis by stoppage and that proved to be true however listening to interviews of fighters who sparred each fighters, they had been satisfied this was going to be a really aggressive combat. And that additionally proved to be true!
What I used to be most involved in was how Tank was going to get on the within and if he could be lively sufficient to win rounds towards the larger Barrios. Effectively, for the primary 4 rounds he discovered it extraordinarily troublesome to get inside as Barrios was doing a terrific job of turning Tank and protecting him at bay together with his measurement/size. The one concern was that Barrios by no means landed a shot that discouraged Tank from coming ahead. By the fifth spherical on, Tank began touchdown increasingly more physique pictures and straight lefts. Nothing that was hurting Barrios at that time however the really feel of the combat began to vary. It was like when Canelo was shedding some early rounds to Kovalev because of his jab however nonetheless staying disciplined in his sport plan and persevering with to chip away.
Talking of Canelo, the primary knockdown with how Tank modified ranges earlier than throwing that hook was Canelo like. In a means, they’ve comparable builds and are very robust and that enables them to stroll greater fighters down. Tyson was clearly like that as nicely. However anyhow, even after Tank knocked Barrios down two instances, the person from San Antonio got here again within the ninth spherical and pressed the motion and truly received the spherical! For this reason if you put two younger fighters of their primes, you get one of these combat. Barrios at that time was damage and overmatched, however he had no give up in him and was going to make Tank EARN the win. If Barrios was in his 30s and had already change into a 2X champion or what not, he might not have had the identical dedication to proceed on. I do not know for those who agree, however typically preventing somebody who’s much less gifted or has much less abilities however of their 20s and prime is harder than preventing somebody who’s seen as elite however of their 30s. These are the sorts of fights that may assist Tank get to the following degree. He has confirmed he is a big draw and for somebody decrease than WW measurement to be one of these draw is particular. We do not see it typically. Hopefully we find yourself getting the fights we wish to see and Tank will get to show simply how good he’s.
On to Lubin/Rosario. This combat lived as much as the billing and also you had been useless on with this prediction. Lubin, whereas nonetheless susceptible to taking flush pictures was simply not going to be denied and was too sharp all combat lengthy. Rosario is a tough man to win rounds off of until you drop him and I felt he received majority of the rounds he did not get KD vs Charlo. There might have been one spherical that Charlo received the place he did not drop Rosario however even that was questionable. Lubin however was in management from the beginning of the combat and was very sharp together with his jab, looping hooks and his physique work. Lubin could be the most gifted 154 pounder on this planet and that’s saying one thing with how good that division is however he actually can do all of it. It is superb to assume he’s nonetheless solely 25 years outdated however he is beginning to construct an excellent resume. However the elephant within the room remains to be his chin. It looks as if when he will get caught with pictures that he would not count on out of the clinch, his knees begin to buckle. How would you modify that for those who had been his coach? As a result of within the fifth spherical he took two or three massive pictures however did not even blink. How was it doable for him to take these greater pictures however not the one which damage him? To his credit score, he stayed composed and recovered nicely after being damage and obtained again in his groove in direction of the tip of the fifth spherical and took the combat over. Coach Cunningham has finished a wonderful job with him and if he can clear up Lubin getting hit with pictures out of the clinch, it is going to be EXTREMELY troublesome to beat this younger man. How do you see him faring towards Fundora?
Take care!
Bread’s Response: Loma appeared wonderful. Nothing extra to say about that. Teo will get additional credit score for the efficiency now. Loma is a HOF and one massive win over these beneath 25 studs in he’s an ATG.
Tank has an excellent chin. That’s one thing individuals don’t give him credit score for. When he goes in assault mode he actually will get to his man. He walks via the fireplace. That’s a terrific trait to have. Some fighters present pretend hustle and stress however they don’t actually deliver it. Tank actually STEPS to his man. He places himself in hurt’s means with a purpose to get the kos he scores. Mario can PUNCH and such as you stated, Tank was by no means discouraged. Tank additionally has good protection. It’s not so good as Floyd’s who he will get in comparison with nevertheless it doesn’t need to be. For his violent model it’s greater than adequate. Mario fought his A$$ off. He’s not a speedster however his velocity was excellent vs Tank. He processed very nicely. That tells me that Virgil Hunter had him ready rather well. I feel Mario wants to maneuver up at this level. I noticed a 6’1 fighter who barely makes 140lbs, begin to weaken because the combat went on. There’s solely however a lot rehydration you are able to do. Tank additionally weakened him however Mario is an enormous child and when you begin to teeter out, your response time and spark is gone. 7lbs of carbs, energy and fluid will assist him lots. Mario has a vibrant future. He gave Tank his hardest combat.
You make a terrific level about Mario preventing via adversity. I say it on a regular basis. PSA! The older a fighter will get, the probabilities he loses his WILL turns into larger. Take the heavy work in your prime. Cease ducking the work.
Lubin’s group is doing a terrific job. Kevin Cunningham and Jason Galarza have him doing nice. He could be the most gifted fighter at 154. I really agree with that. However he additionally will get damage…..So far as what they might do. Possibly they’re correcting it. I don’t know why he will get damage. Possibly some pictures catch him without warning. Possibly he loses monitor of them. Possibly he thought Rosarios’ jab wouldn’t have that kind of steam on it. I really feel like every part will be taught. I work on my fighter’s necks, jaws and spines. I additionally work on them processing punches. It looks as if Lubin will get caught without warning by sure pictures. If he sees the pictures, he’s okay however once they catch him without warning they rattle him.
However look he’s not gun shy. He brings it and nobody will beat him straightforward. I additionally love how Lubin is taking REAL fights to get higher and never sitting round ready for his title shot. I feel Lubin might be too sharp for Fundora however Fundora is frightening. He appears to be getting stronger and extra bodily imposing. That’s a 55/45 in Lubin’s favor. It’s a terrific combat. Fundora jogs my memory of a heavier handed Paul Williams who had a very good peak. If Lubin couldn’t damage him that combat would get actually fascinating.
Response to Nonito’s assertion from Jim Lampley. “Put it this fashion: this can be a greater win for him than successful the combat. This can be a win for ethics and precept”.
Howyalikeit?
Bread’s Response: Nonito Donaire can NEVER get sufficient credit score for what he did. He’s the primary GREAT fighter to voluntarily go in 365/24/7 VADA and he was at his PEAK when he did it and received FOY. Nobody else can say that. Nonito is the Ken Griffey Jr. of this period.
Hey how are you Bread?
First off you had been useless on about Erickson Lubin and your prediction of a Knockout of Resario. I see Lubin as a future champion who discovered from his loss to Charlo. What are your ideas? In your opinion can 2 fighters who actually wish to combat one another make a combat occur regardless of being with competitor promoters? For instance can Spence and Crawford drive the combat? Bored with the reasons and really mediocre PPVs.
I watched a really entertaining cruiserweight bout (Apochi v Glanton) This previous weekend. Why do you assume the cruiserweight division has by no means actually garnered any consideration from the general public? My faves are Evander Holyfield , Carlos Deleon, Anaclet Wamba and my man Dwight Qawi had been all nice however just one if these guys is understood and that’s for being a heavyweight.
Lastly does Bernard Hopkins get sufficient respect? I’ve been studying your mailbag again because the boxingtalk days and I can’t bear in mind anybody in writing in about this dude. He had almost a 30 12 months profession and a stretch of 12 years Of being undefeated following the Roy Jones combat. I didn’t love his model however he nearly at all times discovered a solution to win.
MM Prime Antonio Tarver and a Prime Joe Calzaghe
Take care,
Aaron from Cleveland
Bread’s Response: Lubin will probably be rewarded by the boxing gods for being an actual fighter. He’s not making an attempt to overthink being nice. He’s simply being a fighter. I don’t know for positive if he will probably be champion however I think he will probably be. He’s preventing and never making an attempt to be a supervisor which is sweet and refreshing on this period.
I feel Hopkins will get respect. I’ve stated a number of instances he fought arguably probably the most excellent combat in historical past vs Tito Trinidad. Hopkins has additionally received 3 big fights as a prohibitive underdog. Trinidad, Pavlik and Tarver. Individuals ask me about typically.
I feel Cruiserweight is simply too near heavyweight to realize the respect it deserves. If TWO fighters actually wish to combat one another they’ll combat however each need to equally need it. They are going to merely instruct their groups to make the combat and in the event that they don’t they get fired. If you see two fighters not preventing it’s as a result of the fighters enable their groups to inform them to not combat. By the best way it’s why fighters pay their groups to make these selections. I’m simply supplying you with the true motive. Then the group as any good group does saves the fighter’s satisfaction and so they falsify why the combat wasn’t made. It occurs each single time we hear either side of why the combat wasn’t made. Somebody must be mendacity as a result of not often does anybody ever says my fighter will not be prepared.
Tarver vs Calzaghe. Ooh nice combat. I say Calzaghe by choice after being dropped.
Greetings Mr. Breadman, I hope you and your loved ones are wholesome and nicely! I simply completed watching the 4 Kings documentary and so they all left no stone unturned! As a longtime boxing fan now in my early 40’s, I’ve a larger appreciation for boxers as I’ve come to study their journey to greatness.. I hope I’m mistaken, however I don’t consider we are going to ever see one other 4 kings in our lifetime. I agree along with your assessments that you’ve shared in your weekly mailbag, Ryan Garcia, Devin Haney, Tank Davis, and Teofilo Lopez are unlikely to succeed in these heights. For freshmen they should begin preventing one another by 2022 and never wait without end for it to marinate.
With social media, completely different boxing promotions (Prime Rank, PBC, DAZN, Golden Boy), and selections being made solely on cash versus danger, make it very difficult for all these dominos to fall in place. For each Marvin Hagler, Lennox Lewis and Andre Ward that retired early, sadly, you’ve exceptional fighters like Sugar Ray Leonard, Thomas Hearns, Roberto Duran, Mike Tyson, and Roy Jones Jr that weren’t in a position to depart the game on the proper time.
I’ve two questions for you. 1) If alternative introduced itself, would you ever prepare a fighter although you consider they shouldn’t be preventing anymore? 2) Who do you consider would have received: Carlos Monzon vs Marvin Hagler?
Thanks at all times for the weekly mailbag!
Sort regards, Eman
Bread’s Response: Plenty of media members are going to want they didn’t write articles calling Garcia, Tank, Haney and Lopez the 4 Kings. It was too SOON!
1) This can be a powerful query. I’ve been approached by fighters who I didn’t assume ought to combat anymore and I informed them no. However coaching a fighter who will not be of their prime and a fighter who shouldn’t combat anymore is completely different. I might positively prepare a fighter who will not be of their prime. So far as coaching a fighter who should not be preventing anymore I might in all probability not do it however I can’t say for sure. I must have a look at them intently. And I might inform them earlier than the combat if I don’t like what I see I’m throwing the towel in.
2) I can’t name Monzon vs Hagler. I see most individuals selecting Monzon and that’s truthful nevertheless it’s a tricky combat. If they’d have fought in 1977 or 78 across the time Monzon retired it could have been tough on Monzon. He was 35-36. Monzon was particular however he struggled dangerous with Emille Griffin and Rodrigo Valdes. I really feel like Hagler was higher than Valdes and nearly as good however brisker than Griffin. Monzon was a terrific fighter however he wasn’t as dominant as you’ll assume. He had 8 attracts on his document. And shut calls vs not solely Griffin and Valdes but additionally to Bennie Briscoe. I actually don’t know who would have received. Monzon raised his sport in keeping with opponents. His jab and proper hand had been like vehicles. However Hagler additionally had a ram rod jab. I feel Hagler’s toes had been extra nimble and he was busier. I might see a collection of shut fights between them with neither ever scoring a stoppage.
Hey Bread, blessings. Was Floyd allowed to be on the ring mat like that giving recommendation and telling him he is down on the unofficial playing cards? I believed that was unethical since he wasn’t aside of the official coaching group. Secondly I am very impressed with the punch placement of Tank. He at all times appear to throw the correct punch on the proper time. To me Tank, Canelo, Loma and Crawford have the most effective punch placement in boxing. My favourite model of boxer is the boxer puncher. Clever, however entertaining.
Tank would not get sufficient credit score for his IQ. He did a terrific job offsetting the jab of Barrios by parrying it together with his proper hand. He additionally throws a good looking straight left. He ducked and rotated his higher physique at instances which was spectacular. Barrios ought to’ve set on his punches and went to physique extra as he was profitable and Tank appeared barely bothered by it. Nobody beats Tank at 130-135 besides possibly Teo, he’s that good. Nonetheless he higher avoid Josh Taylor. Lubin is the 2nd finest at 154, nonetheless he’s chinny. He will be beat vs a downhill fighter/continuous stress man. Though he might presumably beat Charlo, I do not assume he deserves a rematch because of him getting KO’d. Lastly Loma remains to be a risk at 135, hopefully one of many younger guys steps up and fights him.
Bread’s Response: I don’t know guidelines of the Georgia State Athletic fee. I can’t say if Floyd is allowed to be in that space. However Crew Barrios ought to have addressed it. It’s too late now.
Tank is should see television. I really like watching his fights. I’ve at all times stated he was top-of-the-line punchers in boxing. At this level he could also be the most effective. He has a 2 fisted assault. I’ve seen him ko guys with each shot. And he has elite IQ and punch choice. He can go!
I received’t say nobody beats Tank from 130-35. We’ve to combat the fights. They aren’t received on paper. They’re received within the ring. I’ll say he could be the favourite over everybody besides Teo. I don’t assume Tank has to STAY away from anybody. He’s a gifted fighter. Josh Taylor is the true deal however he’s not invincible. Taylor brings his head down at instances to land sure pictures. Tank might clip Josh, similar to Josh might outbox Tanks. That’s a tough combat for each.
After seeing tank vs Barrios I feel Tank’s 50/50 or higher with everybody from 140lbs on down. Taylor is the champion however that doesn’t imply he might beat Tank. Each combat and each camp is completely different. That’s a tougher combat for Josh than you make assume.
I feel Lubin deserves a rematch. It’s not a right away rematch. He’s 6-0 since shedding and it’s been 4 years. I strongly disagree with you. If a fighter redeems himself after a ko and the one who kod him remains to be champion, why can’t he combat him once more. I actually don’t even get your logic behind that.
Hello Breadman, hoping you might be good. Wish to get your opinion on two fights.
What’s your opinion on Usyk-AJ? I reckon it is a very intriguing combat. Normal consensus right here in England appears to be that will probably be a routine victory for AJ. AJ is a superb athletic fighter with formidable punching energy and hand velocity, however he appears considerably linear together with his footwork and struggles with pondering on his toes; he fights reflexively typically, shedding focus, and that is one thing that will get him damage IMO.
Except Usyk has considerably bodily declined, I feel it’s going to take a herculean displaying from AJ to return away decisively with the victory. I do know Usyk appeared below-par towards Chisora however everyone seems to be allowed a number of dangerous days on the workplace, and AJ is much less inclined in direction of utilizing his physicality/energy since being damage/dropped in high-profile fights. What do you assume?
Spence-Pacquiao. A few years in the past, I might have seen this a one thing of a mismatch. A number of years after that, following Errol’s accident and the uncertainty that adopted, I might have seen it as a extra intriguing affair. Now, in mild of Errol’s stable comeback efficiency towards Danny Garcia, I’ve come full circle and strongly favour him to emerge victorious towards Manny. I do not assume he is as explosive or as surgical as Crawford for instance, so Errol won’t be capable of get the assertion stoppage win early on, if Manny can maintain any motion/exchanges in the midst of the ring, however in the end this can be a dangerous combat for the Pacman IMO.
Though he has unquestionably declined in athletic sense all through the previous couple of years, Pacquiao remains to be a terrific boxer; he is in all probability the best of my technology, subsequently, I totally count on him to ‘look’ aggressive and energetic early on, however absolutely Errol will draw back. He makes every part look so easy; working responsibly off the lead hand. He will be environment friendly and he may also outfight you. And he is a murderous physique puncher. At his age, I do not assume Manny has the legs or mobility anymore to outlive towards somebody like Errol, not to mention win. I feel Errol stops a cussed Pacquiao within the championship rounds. What do you assume?
Bread’s Response: I feel Usyk has been in a efficiency hunch recently. I don’t know what it’s however he’s not in the identical type that he was in within the World Collection. I don’t count on him to dominate Joshua. I count on aggressive combat however I feel Joshua wins a call.
I feel Errol Spence is an athletic grinder. Form of like Marvin Hagler. He doesn’t look as athletic as a few of his counter components however he has athleticism. Errol was extra athletic than Mikey and Danny Garcia. He simply doesn’t depend on athleticism to win fights. He depends on fundamentals, bodily energy and jab. If Pacquiao underestimates his velocity, he will probably be in for a impolite awakening. Errol is quick, he’s simply not lighting quick. He velocity was just like Hagler’s. Superb. Errol is a technical grinder vs his higher opponents I feel he must be vs Pac. Pac is quicker and extra explosive and I feel it’s going to take Errol a while to get adjusted. I feel Errol will go to his physique. I additionally assume Errol’s jab will gradual Manny down. A relentless jab weakens the backbone and limits motion. I feel Errol wins a 7-5 or 8-4 choice.
Greetings Mr. Edwards!
To start with, I hope you and your family members are nonetheless secure and sound in these sort of instances at this time.
As at all times, it is a pleasure to learn your mailbags with all your insights to this nice sport; my weekend would not be the identical with out it.
That is really my 2nd time writing in to you (your solutions to my final questions concerning the nice George Foreman had been completely bliss and I used to be so completely happy that you simply took your time to reply these). My query this time might look like an odd one however nonetheless, right here I’m going: What’s your opinion of Rus Anber as a cutman? I just lately began rewatching Usyk’s undisputed conquest on the cruiserweight division and if I bear in mind accurately, he at all times was (and nonetheless is) in Usyk’s nook (the identical applies to Lomachenko). So within the grand scheme of issues, how and the place do you charge Rus as foremost a cutman and “normal advisor” in between rounds, preparations in camp and so forth.? Is he as nice as e.g. Sew Duran or different high canines within the sport? Would love & respect your opinion on this matter!
All the most effective to you and your family members and have a terrific remainder of your day!
Greetings from Germany, Jakob!
Bread’s Response: If I’m not mistaken Abner has one thing to do with Rival Boxing Gear. I met him as soon as in Montreal at a combat. I additionally consider we observe one another on social media. I feel he’s a superb cutman. I additionally consider he does actually good hand wraps. He’s very resourceful and it appears as if plenty of high fighters need him in and round their groups. He appears to be an individual who offers off a successful power.
What’s good Bread. Quite a lot of thrilling matchups the final couple of weeks, I don’t even know the place to get began. You astutely identified one thing I don’t assume many individuals noticed within the Charlo vs Montiel matchup. Montiel hit Charlo with a nasty physique shot that basically damage Charlo however Charlo poker face is so good I’m unsure if Montiel picked up on it throughout the spherical however he did finally decide up on it and start digging to the physique. That took lots of steam out of Charlo’s punches happening the stretch and presumably saved Montiel from getting knocked out as Charlo was hitting him with every part however the kitchen sink.
I’m going to say one thing and its not meant to be overly crucial as a result of I just like the younger gun however the knockout Lubin suffered towards Charlo was no fluke and I completely count on for fighters on the high of the division to have spotlight knockouts towards him. Lubin has poor punch resistance. I’ve seen him damage a number of instances during the last couple of fights by punches that you simply don’t count on to harm him. I do know Rosario can crack however he has by no means been recognized to have a cracking jab and he threw a gentle contact jab and rocked Lubin. Lubin appears to be a wiser model of Khan. We’ll see.
I’ve by no means seen Castano combat however I totally count on for Mell to wrestle and its based mostly solely off the truth that he was completely loaded at his brothers combat a month out from his personal combat. To me that’s so disrespectful and a whole lack of self-discipline and focus. I do know I seen you make a press release about babysitting fighters as soon as however what do you make of a fighter a month away from his combat seemingly intoxicated? In all equity I’m assuming due to the interview he gave on air that night time. I used to be not with him or in his presence however he positively gave the impression to be drunk. Rise up Tank!!! I really like the motion by the institutions to maneuver fights to black cities. Atlanta confirmed up and confirmed out. Houston additionally had crowd. I’m simply curious as to why they’re transferring Tank the best way they’re. I do know that they’ve a plan however he appears to be nice why hasn’t he gone after a high gun. Floyd is guiding Tank’s profession very like how he completed his profession, taking up perceived threats however know actual 50/50 match ups. I might like to see Tank do what Lopez did and go right into a 50/50 combat to determine himself as the true deal. I actually nonetheless have questions.
Now Bread, put your coach hat on. If you happen to had been in Wilder’s nook what could be your technique to beat Fury the third time round. Tell us what he must do to have an actual likelihood? What weak spot do you see? I at all times thought Wilder wanted to punch via Fury’s faints and never wait. Fury faints additionally enable him to get into punching place. I feel if Wilder punches via the faints it’s going to trigger Fury to reset each time.
Okay, in order a lot as I like Crawford as a fighter, I’ve considerably been crucial due to the shortage of competitors and likewise his enterprise selections to resign with Bob when it was clear Bob didn’t have the fighters or an actual plan to maneuver his profession alongside. So, Bud tells Porter that he must be touchdown the combat with Pac and so he didn’t wish to entertain a combat with him. We all know now that Pac has gone in a special route and now Bud is completely silent. Shawn has informed any and everybody who would hear that he desires to combat Bud and is able to combat Bud, neither has a dance accomplice and now that Pac has chosen his subsequent combat Bud is silent. That is the explanation I’m crucial of Bud!! Additionally, Spence introduced up a terrific level which bares repeating. Bud is an actual confrontational man and anytime somebody says one thing to or about him he has a response. Bob talks shit about him and he’s completely quiet. I actually simply don’t get it.
Bread’s Response: Jermall Charlo is among the most sturdy fighters in boxing. He can TAKE it. That was a nasty physique shot. I noticed it and he ate it. However his power degree went down. Montiel is an enormous puncher. It occurs, it’s boxing. The difficulty will probably be now fighters will probably be slightly extra prepared to get to Charlo’s physique. Devrenchenko landed a pleasant one additionally for those who bear in mind.
As a coach, you’ve to have the ability to see the little issues. Right here is the factor. Fighters will go after Lubin’s chin however Lubin has firepower. It’s not really easy to get to Lubin. Lubin is best than Khan for my part. His smarts propel him over Khan. Khan fought at a decrease weight additionally which makes it simpler to win titles. Lubin is in a killer division. From 147-168 traditionally it’s SMOKE. Let’s see how his profession performs out. If he by no means will get stopped once more, what we are saying about his chin. Time will inform.
I don’t know if Jermell Charlo was consuming or not. I don’t touch upon stuff like that until I do know and even in order that’s his enterprise. He is aware of the date of his combat. If he can drink alcohol and carry out extra energy to him. Some fighters drink alcohol, some don’t. I favor a fighter not drink throughout his profession as a result of alcohol damages the liver, it makes it tougher to recuperate the following day, it dehydrates you and it makes you acquire weight. However extra fighters drink than will admit they drink. I feel Charlo vs Castano is a superb combat regardless. Let’s see.
I really like the promotion behind Tank. He’s fought in Baltimore and now ATL, two city sizzling spots. I additionally assume he’s an incredible fighter. He confirmed me one thing vs Barrios. As for his competitors degree, it’s stable however not nice. It’s simply how this period is. They aren’t going to make him run via a brick wall if he doesn’t need to. We’re in a special period than Leonard preventing Hearns, Oscar preventing Mosley and Floyd preventing Diego. It’s simply completely different. I now not examine this period to others. I settle for it for what it’s.
Malik Scott seems to be doing a terrific job. I’m not going to 2nd guess technique. Or say what I might do as a result of I don’t know what they’re doing in camp. What I’ll communicate on is Tyson Fury’s degree efficiency. Fury fought his profession finest combat. It’s onerous to try this in again to again fights, particularly when you’ve been off a 12 months and a half. Within the historical past of boxing, has a fighter had a profession finest efficiency then took a 18 months and placed on a greater efficiency? That alone let’s me know Wilder has a greater shot than individuals assume. Wilder will be higher. However can Fury be higher than he was within the rematch. If Fury will not be nearly as good and Wilder is slightly higher……Then What…
These guys are human beings. Fury additionally was set on Joshua. Now he has to retool. Wilder’s gumption for wanting the combat tells me one thing additionally. Final however not least Fury received’t catch Wilder without warning together with his aggressive techniques.
I don’t know why Bud and Porter haven’t resumed talks. I hope Bud will get the combat he deserves earlier than he begins to slide. The enterprise aspect is simply as necessary because the boxing aspect. This subsequent 12 months will probably be essential for his legacy.
Wassup Breadman,
As standard, you’ve got been on level along with your predictions. Lubin stopped Rosario and Davis broke down Barrios using physique pictures. Man, Tank can hit. He did present some vulnerabilities together with an honest set of whiskers. What a coronary heart Barrios have to return again after being damage within the eighth and appear to be nonetheless giving Davis some bother proper earlier than being dropped within the eleventh. I discovered it fascinating that he was about to coast and it took Floyd telling him he was unofficially all the way down to get him to go for the stoppage. The place do you assume Davis go from right here? Does he keep at 140? If he goes again all the way down to 135 and possibly even 130. From 130 to 140, who do you assume pose the most important risk to him.
As a child, I used to be an enormous Shane Mosley fan. You could not inform me he wasn’t the most effective together with his velocity, energy, and boxing means. For some motive, I at all times assume Mosley misplaced fights that I believed he had the flexibility to win. I believed even at his older age, he ought to’ve stopped Miguel Cotto. In opposition to Floyd, he appeared to be surprisingly jittery and did not appear to wish to have interaction. With Mayorga, he appeared like he was counting on one shot your entire time. What do you assume had been his deficiencies? Was he only a sucker for jab?
Lastly, what are your ideas on doghouse guidelines sparring? Thanks
Bread’s Response: Tank and Barrios placed on a present. They each will ascend from right here. I’m glad you talked about Tank’s chin. He has set of whiskers and he’s imply. He didn’t entrance run. I feel Davis will combat massive fights from 130-40. His group will create him opponents. I feel he’ll look in direction of a Ryan Garcia combat. If that may’t be made they’ll discover another person to suit the invoice. They know find out how to decide opponents. The largest risk to Tank in my opinions are Teofimo Lopez and Shakur Stevenson equally. You guys might not understand this however the greater guys could also be simpler as a result of they’re slower. Tank is an actual puncher. With actual velocity and quickness. He could have the identical benefit Pacman had all these years at 140-47.
Shane Mosley is a HOF and a terrific fighter. However I feel like most gifted individuals he fell in love together with his presents. His velocity and energy had been wonderful however Mosley wasn’t the boxer that Leonard and Mayweather had been. He obtained outboxed by Miguel Cotto for those who bear in mind. That informed me one thing. I don’t assume he was a SUCKER for a jab. A jab is the closest punch to you, so everybody will get hit with them. I simply assume Mosley was in love together with his velocity and energy. He talked about it on a regular basis. And if he couldn’t overwhelm his opponents, he normally didn’t win. The perfect adjustment he made was in his first combat with De La Hoya. After that combat he by no means did that once more the place he was shedding a combat and he turned it round by boxing. I feel Mosley was mislabeled all of those years. He was known as a boxer puncher. However he was a extra of an athletic, quick attacker.
I like intense sparring for fighters. You hear off all of those various things about sparring security and so forth. A very good coach will monitor his fighters however you may’t get in nice form going via the motions in sparring. I don’t know what Canine Home guidelines are however I do consider in intense sparring with the unwritten rule of for those who damage the sparring accomplice and he’s out on his toes don’t observe up, step again.
The combat was actually good. One factor I do not fairly perceive is how Davis caught Barrios with straight punches typically. It was like he did not count on it. Is it because of Gervonta’s velocity, positioning or each? Additionally, ought to tall fighters solely research tall fighters? I am 6’2 and I do my very own little coaching at house only for train nothing critical. In fact I nonetheless wish to do issues correctly so I believed I might ask.
Tim from Barbados
Bread’s Response: I feel Mario did job defensively. Tank is quicker, faster and extra gifted. He’s going to get hit, it’s a combat. I feel Tank landed his looping pictures and uppercuts higher than his straight pictures. He not often landed a jab. He did land his straight left hand nevertheless it wasn’t one thing that Mario didn’t see or damage Mario. Tank landed that shot as a result of, he’s an excellent fighter. He has timing, velocity and accuracy. He can hit anybody. Different quick fighters like Pernell Whitaker and Manny Pacquiao additionally had the flexibility to land lengthy vary pictures vs taller fighters. They’re gifted.
You need to model research fighters along with your physique kind. And you must research fighters who you may decide up issues from. Don’t restrict your self. Nice fighters will all offer you one thing to select up on. Tank learns from Floyd however they’re constructed nothing alike. Floyd was a tall 130lber. He had lengthy arms. He was proper handed. Tank is shorter, with quick arms and he’s a southpaw. But he learns from him.
Hello Breadman,
Hope you and yours are nicely. One other couple of questions for the mail bag if in case you have an area within the article?
You’ve got acknowledged earlier than that you simply consider group Canelo waited for GGG to look susceptible earlier than making the primary combat, I agree that this was clear and depending on the people view could possibly be seen as unfair, however my questions are, 1. in the event that they each fought at their primes who comes out on high? 2. No matter who wins on this matchup who do you consider has proven a better apex of their peak?
Additionally on the subject of “apex”, might you rank the next fashionable all time greats so as of highest to lowest peak as in who was the most effective at their respective finest: Floyd Mayweather, Manny Pacquiao, Pernell Whitaker, Julio Caesar Chavez, Oscar De La Hoya, Shane Mosley, Roberto Duran, Sugar Ray Leonard, Tommy Hearns, Marvin Hagler, Canelo, GGG.
Many thanks and all the most effective,
John.
Bread’s Response: A complete period of middleweights waited GGG out not simply Canelo. I feel if the GGG of 2011-14 fought Canelo at middleweight he would’ve received. However I wish to say that I by no means thought Canelo was over his head vs GGG. I by no means understood that notion. Canelo obtained sport. And although I believed GGG received their 1st combat, I believed Canelo executed his gameplan higher and confirmed extra abilities. GGG simply had a greater gasoline tank and didn’t need to take off rounds, which I believed ought to’ve given him the win.
I feel Canelo had the marginally greater peak. He’s additionally had a greater alternative to indicate it. GGG didn’t get these sorts of fights at 30 yrs outdated. The way in which Canelo is working proper now. Fielding, Kovalev, Smith and Saunders. Canelo seems superior. However I’ve at all times believed Canelo struggled to make the decrease weights. I believed he was nice however susceptible at `154. And since his transfer as much as 168 he’s appeared higher.
Disclaimer: Floyd will go down as an general higher fighter than Manny however you might be asking me peak and APEX. Manny from David Diaz to Antonio Margarito fought 6 excellent fights. By no means misplaced 2 rounds in a row. It could be the most effective PPV run in historical past.
1a. Roberto Duran peak 73-80, apex 1980 Leonard combat.
1b. Sugar Ray Leonard peak 79-92, apex 1981 Hearns
3. Pernell Whitaker peak 89-95, apex 1990 Jose Ramirez 2
4. Manny Pacquiao peak 08-11, apex 08 De La Hoya
5. Floyd Mayweather peak 98-07, apex 01 Diego Corrales
6. Marvin Hagler peak 78-83, apex 81 Caveman Lee
7. Julio Cesar Chavez peak 85-92, apex 87 Edwin Rosario
8.Tommy Hearns peak 80-86 , apex 84 Roberto Duran
9. Canelo Alvarez peak 16-present, apex 2020 Callum Smith
10. Oscar De La Hoya peak 95-00, apex 96 Julio Cesar Chavez
11. GGG peak 10-14, apex 2013 Matthew Macklin
12. Shane Mosley peak 97-02, apex 2000 Oscar De La Hoya
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